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Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
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Posted - 2014.08.01 00:20:00 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit.
There are five POCOs in Luminaire with a 1% player corporation tax. If you have rank 5 customs code expertise the total tax will be 6%. And it's pretty close to a couple of trade hubs if factory planets are your thing. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:50:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Satyr Ersatz wrote:Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit. All 8 POCOs in Luminaire have a 1% player corporation tax. If you have rank 5 customs code expertise the total tax will be 6%. And it's pretty close to a couple of trade hubs if factory planets are your thing. You forgot a 1 off that number...11%. I just passed through that way.
I did not - the POCOs in Luminaire have 1% player tax. The overall tax for you, personally, is 11% because you don't have customs code expertise trained. Each level of customs code expertise will knock the NPC component of the tax down until, at level 5, the overall tax hits a minimum of 6% (5% for the NPCs and 1% for the player).
Unless you belong to a POCO-owning corporation or alliance, you will not find a lower player tax (and, by extension, a lower overall POCO tax) in all of high sec. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.01 10:29:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:
Point taken mate, I just went on another character with customs code at lvl 3 and it was down to 8%. Thanks for pointing that out.
Not a problem. :) |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.05 14:47:00 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Well, it's a kind of experiment. Maybe a bit tedious. But you need some objective within EVE. Mine for the next months will be to generate enough ISK via PI in Highsec to move to Lowsec or Providence including some more skills, cloak hauler, new command centers and so on. Maybe 150 to 200 million ISK.
If you're willing to take the plunge, I'm sharing J104335 with three other corporations, and they are open to bringing more in right now. It's PI rich with a high sec static, and you can easily clear 1 billion ISK each month with characters from a single account. we're active in the WH at all times, so aside from the occasional cloaker it's relatively safe, and the POCO tax is set at 4%, with no other rents. If you're interested send me an email and I'll run the idea of bringing you in past the other corporations. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:52:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Don't do PI in hisec. Live a little and head into low.
Better yet - wormhole space. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:52:59 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Don't do PI in hisec. Live a little and head into low.
Better yet - wormhole space. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:12:00 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:
So even sticking with 2 colonies you will have recouped your initial investment and be showing a profit the next time you collect.
Thats not a bad return really as all the income from then on is profit, just think how much you can generate with the max of 6 colonies.
Well 10 days later. I'm out of the red numbers and generating profit. I think i'll delve deeper into the art of setting up colonies before i start a new one. The forum and google should help with that. Anyway. Compared to the investment in time and money to get the skills and the frist colonies runing, PI in highsec isn't very profitable (as alot of you pointed out). It's definitly no activity to point new players to. Atleast not if they want to try it in highsec.
Yeah - my initial motivation for moving to WH space was to PLEX my accounts through PI after getting frustrated with low highsec returns. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:12:28 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:
So even sticking with 2 colonies you will have recouped your initial investment and be showing a profit the next time you collect.
Thats not a bad return really as all the income from then on is profit, just think how much you can generate with the max of 6 colonies.
Well 10 days later. I'm out of the red numbers and generating profit. I think i'll delve deeper into the art of setting up colonies before i start a new one. The forum and google should help with that. Anyway. Compared to the investment in time and money to get the skills and the frist colonies runing, PI in highsec isn't very profitable (as alot of you pointed out). It's definitly no activity to point new players to. Atleast not if they want to try it in highsec.
Yeah - my initial motivation for moving to WH space was to PLEX my accounts through PI after getting frustrated with low highsec returns. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:13:29 -
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For those of you who are interested, I've dropped the player tax on my Luminaire POCOs to 0%, and I'm going to keep it that way for at least three months from this post, at which point I'll only raise it back to 1%. So if your interest is in manufacturing planets in hi-sec, Luminaire is a good spot for it, from the cost perspective. |
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